Comments on: Intel Chairman to visit Bangladesh: Grameen-Intel Partnership for World Ahead program http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/ Online platform for South Asian rural community Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:02:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Omi Azad http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-3454 Omi Azad Thu, 15 May 2008 10:30:59 +0000 http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-3454 <b>I found an article on Grameen Solutions' mismanagement. You can find there <a href="http://jobsofbangladesh.com/2008/05/15/interview-experience-with-grameen-solutions/" rel="nofollow">here.</a> If the article is true then how come they will participate on the country's prospect!</b> I found an article on Grameen Solutions’ mismanagement. You can find there here. If the article is true then how come they will participate on the country’s prospect!

]]> By: Kazi http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-1205 Kazi Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:28:57 +0000 http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-1205 Yes Shawon, Thats the word I was looking for 'corporate propaganda'! Makes sense :) Although, I admit I suspected that and was 99% sure it was. And also, agree with the point regarding 'long term plan' from the smart heads in Santa Clara and BD to make the most of it. Just take a look at where 57% of world's population is...and out of that 57%...how many are familiar to the use of information technology...or just the computer. The figures will speak for themselves as to where systems sales should be in the next decade...and who dictates how it is to be used :) By the way, you dont have to be a fan of Professor Muhammad Yunus, but I do suggest that you should have a good read about the activities he has managed to deploy in perhaps what can be termed as in the 'most difficult of times'. So before you speak out your mind and opinions, do question yourself as to why are you saying that. Yes Shawon,
Thats the word I was looking for ‘corporate propaganda’! Makes sense :) Although, I admit I suspected that and was 99% sure it was.
And also, agree with the point regarding ‘long term plan’ from the smart heads in Santa Clara and BD to make the most of it. Just take a look at where 57% of world’s population is…and out of that 57%…how many are familiar to the use of information technology…or just the computer. The figures will speak for themselves as to where systems sales should be in the next decade…and who dictates how it is to be used :)
By the way, you dont have to be a fan of Professor Muhammad Yunus, but I do suggest that you should have a good read about the activities he has managed to deploy in perhaps what can be termed as in the ‘most difficult of times’. So before you speak out your mind and opinions, do question yourself as to why are you saying that.

]]> By: Laila Ali http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-548 Laila Ali Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:34:15 +0000 http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-548 <strong>Laila Ali</strong> I Googled for something completely different, but found your page...and have to say thanks. nice read. Laila Ali

I Googled for something completely different, but found your page…and have to say thanks. nice read.

]]> By: Shawon http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-494 Shawon Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:10:14 +0000 http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-494 I understand you guys having an argument about this pretty useless issue. Since I work for intel in UK, I guess I know a little bit inside out about this corporation and relevant corporate world. So it just makes me laugh the way you guys arguing about this. The way intel approached bangladesh is a very common scenario for us. we call it 'Corporate propaganda' but Intel Corporation describes it as 'corporate responsibility'. Now my point is that there are many intelligent and smart heads working in Santa Clara behind this move. In other words it's a long term plan for this corporate giant to make a huge profit at some point in this particular region. It's not a 'donation' as far as I'm concerened. So it's our opportunity to make the most out of this business move and capitalize as much as possible. As they are trying to make money by utilizing our resources, what we should do is to be smart enough to utilize them as stairs to progress. Now the contract with Grameen Solutions, OK it was our government's responsibility to come forward and convince the company that they are capable of taking the responsibility to carry out their proposed development program. But they didn't or couldn't do that, therefore they shouldn't complain. Now Intel has made the deal with a company which they thought would be the most efficient organization to implement their development program and will be able to make money for them in future. Now I don't really wanna go into an argument with anyone or hurt anyone's feelings. I'm only 20 so I don't know much about this but this is all I've got to say about this. By the way please don't think that I'm a huge fan of Dr. Muhammad Yunus or Grameen. I am particularly not keen about none of these. If you want to confront my comment please e-mail me to kameeeng@gmail.com. That's what we call in Intel 'Constructive Confrontation' (Corporate propaganda and Bureaucracy). No offense to anyone. I understand you guys having an argument about this pretty useless issue. Since I work for intel in UK, I guess I know a little bit inside out about this corporation and relevant corporate world. So it just makes me laugh the way you guys arguing about this. The way intel approached bangladesh is a very common scenario for us. we call it ‘Corporate propaganda’ but Intel Corporation describes it as ‘corporate responsibility’. Now my point is that there are many intelligent and smart heads working in Santa Clara behind this move. In other words it’s a long term plan for this corporate giant to make a huge profit at some point in this particular region. It’s not a ‘donation’ as far as I’m concerened. So it’s our opportunity to make the most out of this business move and capitalize as much as possible. As they are trying to make money by utilizing our resources, what we should do is to be smart enough to utilize them as stairs to progress. Now the contract with Grameen Solutions, OK it was our government’s responsibility to come forward and convince the company that they are capable of taking the responsibility to carry out their proposed development program. But they didn’t or couldn’t do that, therefore they shouldn’t complain. Now Intel has made the deal with a company which they thought would be the most efficient organization to implement their development program and will be able to make money for them in future. Now I don’t really wanna go into an argument with anyone or hurt anyone’s feelings. I’m only 20 so I don’t know much about this but this is all I’ve got to say about this. By the way please don’t think that I’m a huge fan of Dr. Muhammad Yunus or Grameen. I am particularly not keen about none of these. If you want to confront my comment please e-mail me to kameeeng@gmail.com. That’s what we call in Intel ‘Constructive Confrontation’ (Corporate propaganda and Bureaucracy). No offense to anyone.

]]> By: Kazi http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-374 Kazi Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:37:45 +0000 http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-374 It is unfortunate to witness such a dialog, with such great news. But then again, it is also interesting to see such diverse range of thoughts. But my take on this is that before we speak we should be well informed on what the actual deal is. For example, I am still in a dilemma on how the whole plan will work out. In the Associated Press, regarding this visit of Dr. Craig Barrett, its said Intel will give 1000 computers to Bangladesh and they have further said that it is still unsure that Intel will invest in Bangladesh. It is an interesting media stunt from my point of view. I am saying this, only because of what Intel has done in Vietnam. First announced that it would be $300m and then within a short-period of time the figure became $1bn. So, what does that say about such a corporate move? It definitely made the headlines! What triggered all this...a simple visit made by Dr. Craig Barrett to Vietnam. We have had the Sales and Marketing division in Bangladesh for a while now. And Bangladesh has been making progress socially and economically and industrially. I already spoke of a few individuals...so why is it that some of us are being slightly pessimistic towards this development. Common honorable gentlemen...its a development in a developing country! And thanks to the few people who have made this possible, i.e. Dr. Muhammad Yunus, Mr. Kazi Islam, Mr. Zia Manzur, Intel Bangladesh Association! Now lets think how do we accelerate this implementation...shall we? It is unfortunate to witness such a dialog, with such great news. But then again, it is also interesting to see such diverse range of thoughts. But my take on this is that before we speak we should be well informed on what the actual deal is. For example, I am still in a dilemma on how the whole plan will work out. In the Associated Press, regarding this visit of Dr. Craig Barrett, its said Intel will give 1000 computers to Bangladesh and they have further said that it is still unsure that Intel will invest in Bangladesh. It is an interesting media stunt from my point of view. I am saying this, only because of what Intel has done in Vietnam. First announced that it would be $300m and then within a short-period of time the figure became $1bn. So, what does that say about such a corporate move? It definitely made the headlines! What triggered all this…a simple visit made by Dr. Craig Barrett to Vietnam.

We have had the Sales and Marketing division in Bangladesh for a while now. And Bangladesh has been making progress socially and economically and industrially. I already spoke of a few individuals…so why is it that some of us are being slightly pessimistic towards this development. Common honorable gentlemen…its a development in a developing country! And thanks to the few people who have made this possible, i.e. Dr. Muhammad Yunus, Mr. Kazi Islam, Mr. Zia Manzur, Intel Bangladesh Association! Now lets think how do we accelerate this implementation…shall we?

]]> By: Saifur http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-366 Saifur Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:44:08 +0000 http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-366 Mr. Marzuk. I always try to speak straight. I just wanted to request them to know more about the World Ahead Program. If they really had the clear concept of that then they would never say like that. There are some people in this world who always try to find the negative side of anything. Do you agree that this is not good? Then if this is not good then you must have the courage to say that straight. If anyone can't express his/her comments straight then s/he has no right to speak in front of others. It's their fault not others. Did you noticed that those guys who couldn't break my logic remained silent. Why? This is only because they have realized that they were really wrong. If not then they must have opposed my opinion. I personally believe this. Anyway, thanks for your saying. I like to hear this anyone who wants to say something then just express yourself openly. I always welcome those who will alert me about my fault in front of me. Thanks again. Mr. Marzuk. I always try to speak straight. I just wanted to request them to know more about the World Ahead Program. If they really had the clear concept of that then they would never say like that. There are some people in this world who always try to find the negative side of anything. Do you agree that this is not good? Then if this is not good then you must have the courage to say that straight. If anyone can’t express his/her comments straight then s/he has no right to speak in front of others. It’s their fault not others. Did you noticed that those guys who couldn’t break my logic remained silent. Why? This is only because they have realized that they were really wrong. If not then they must have opposed my opinion. I personally believe this. Anyway, thanks for your saying. I like to hear this anyone who wants to say something then just express yourself openly. I always welcome those who will alert me about my fault in front of me. Thanks again.

]]> By: Marzuk http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-365 Marzuk Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:02:15 +0000 http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-365 to Mr Saifur, even you are perfectly right in your argument, there is always somebody who may come up with a point which could oppose your idea completely...that does not mean the other guy has "he shortage of knowledge"...he thinks different... in your posts, you are always offensive to any comment you didn't like.... does it sound good?...anyway, i just wanted to point out somithing that didn't look good to me .. Marzuk, Germany to Mr Saifur, even you are perfectly right in your argument, there is always somebody who may come up with a point which could oppose your idea completely…that does not mean the other guy has “he shortage of knowledge”…he thinks different… in your posts, you are always offensive to any comment you didn’t like…. does it sound good?…anyway, i just wanted to point out somithing that didn’t look good to me ..

Marzuk, Germany

]]> By: Alamgir Hossain http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-355 Alamgir Hossain Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:38:05 +0000 http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-355 Mr. Sayeed. Did you ever tried to be helpful to the community? If I'm not wrong, you are the owner of BanglaICT mailing list and where people are not allowed to say something with a free mind. You always talk rather working. Please try to be helpful sometimes. Alamgir Mr. Sayeed. Did you ever tried to be helpful to the community? If I’m not wrong, you are the owner of BanglaICT mailing list and where people are not allowed to say something with a free mind.

You always talk rather working. Please try to be helpful sometimes.

Alamgir

]]> By: JOAN TAYLOR http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-354 JOAN TAYLOR Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:08:42 +0000 http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-354 I am an Australian, living in Dhaka. My background is in education, including the use of ICT within mainstream primary and secondary schools. I was very interested to learn of the intended visit of Dr Barrett and of the agreement between Grameen and Intel. I am in contact with some talented young people, working within the National Curriculum and Textbook Board (a part of the Ministry of Education). During the past three years, as part of a major curriculum development project, they have led the development of a new curriculum for Information and Communications Technology at grades 9 and 10 within secondary schools, a subject to be taught as one of the compulsory electives at those grade levels in more than 17,000 schools. Shortly they will be participating in the development of curricula for both grades 6 - 8 and 11 and 12, including ICT components, either as separate subjects or as an integral part of the curriculum. Under a GOB project, the Secondary Education Sector Development Project, they are currently planning an e-Learning project to be conducted, over three years, in 20 selected secondary schools. The main aim of this project is to examine ways in which computers can be used effectively and efficiently to enhance student learning and to raise general community awareness of the potential for life-long learning associated with computers. I would be very pleased if these two young people could be included in a meeting between Dr Barrett and educationists as they are very well informed about the situation in Bangladesh and they are in a position to facilitate and support the use of computers and associated technology with students in schools. Joan Taylor Phone: 882 6301 OR 01819 243 621 I am an Australian, living in Dhaka. My background is in education, including the use of ICT within mainstream primary and secondary schools.

I was very interested to learn of the intended visit of Dr Barrett and of the agreement between Grameen and Intel.

I am in contact with some talented young people, working within the National Curriculum and Textbook Board (a part of the Ministry of Education).

During the past three years, as part of a major curriculum development project, they have led the development of a new curriculum for Information and Communications Technology at grades 9 and 10 within secondary schools, a subject to be taught as one of the compulsory electives at those grade levels in more than 17,000 schools. Shortly they will be participating in the development of curricula for both grades 6 - 8 and 11 and 12, including ICT components, either as separate subjects or as an integral part of the curriculum.

Under a GOB project, the Secondary Education Sector Development Project, they are currently planning an e-Learning project to be conducted, over three years, in 20 selected secondary schools. The main aim of this project is to examine ways in which computers can be used effectively and efficiently to enhance student learning and to raise general community awareness of the potential for life-long learning associated with computers.

I would be very pleased if these two young people could be included in a meeting between Dr Barrett and educationists as they are very well informed about the situation in Bangladesh and they are in a position to facilitate and support the use of computers and associated technology with students in schools.

Joan Taylor
Phone: 882 6301 OR 01819 243 621

]]> By: Saifur http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-351 Saifur Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:56:20 +0000 http://voiceofsouth.org/2007/08/31/intel/#comment-351 Mr. Sayeed, I am really surprised by reading your comment. This proofs that you have the shortage of knowledge regarding Intel World Ahead Program. Would you please visit the web site of Intel World Ahead Program (http://www.intel.com/intel/worldahead/index.htm). Then you will learn about this. You should know something details before give your valuable comments. Classmate PC is just one of 4 pillars of IWAP. Do you know how much Intel invested in Vietnam & India? I would request you to know the details first and then to comment on such issues. Where did you find the information that Grameen Solutions is going to assemble Intels Classmate PC? And though Grameen Solutions does this then will there not create lots of job opportunities for our people? Won't they pay for this? Aren't we buying PCs now? I don't know what you guys think of? Try expand your thinking arena. I know I might have said a lot but I am really surprised to see such kind of comments here. Anyway.. I am sorry if I have said anything wrong. You are most welcome to point out my faults. Mr. Sayeed, I am really surprised by reading your comment. This proofs that you have the shortage of knowledge regarding Intel World Ahead Program. Would you please visit the web site of Intel World Ahead Program (http://www.intel.com/intel/worldahead/index.htm). Then you will learn about this. You should know something details before give your valuable comments. Classmate PC is just one of 4 pillars of IWAP. Do you know how much Intel invested in Vietnam & India? I would request you to know the details first and then to comment on such issues. Where did you find the information that Grameen Solutions is going to assemble Intels Classmate PC? And though Grameen Solutions does this then will there not create lots of job opportunities for our people? Won’t they pay for this? Aren’t we buying PCs now? I don’t know what you guys think of? Try expand your thinking arena. I know I might have said a lot but I am really surprised to see such kind of comments here. Anyway.. I am sorry if I have said anything wrong. You are most welcome to point out my faults.

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